Just before my son joined the marines the ex takes me to court for an increase in child support.She was denied. Later I found out my son had just graduated from Camp Lejeune. I went to court (NY state) and had him emancipated. I ask the judge for the monies I had overpaid and was denied ! This is tantamount to Fraud and making money off a soldier. I don’t seem to have any recourse. Is there any way to recover the nine months I’ve overpaid? It really is not about the money but just the thought of her using my son as an additional income. It’s unconscionable that a mother would use her son that way and that the courts say they can’t do anything. I just don’t believe it
just for the neo nazi female libbers and I imagine there are few here just from some of the answers . I have NEVER been in arrears. In fact because I travel overseas I ususally have a 00 escrow account in case I can’t make a payment. Also last year I gave ,000 hopefully for a contribution for an education. Instead she bought a new car. Also I paid the ex for their health insurance. I later found out she never carried health insurance. . I’ve sucked it up plenty of times. and I always give in. I don’t like giving it to lawyers. I’d rather just give in and have it go to the kids. I had my son emancipated with out him there because he was IN THE Marines! I wonder the different answers I would have got if it was a man that did this ? I should have know better than try to get any supportive advice. I’ll get a lawyer and I thank you for you time . Fraud from ex wives and there are plenty are worse than criminals. They use their kids for profit . don’t put me in your deadbeat dad jar.

I payed all my child support owed to my ex. My child is emancipated and 19 years old and working. I owe arrears because of the interest that accumulated, when I was sick and in the hospital for awhile and she went on welfare. So they billed my K for this about a year ago. And no, they don’t care if I was in the hospital almost dying. And no, I could not get a loan to pay it off in a lump sum, because they added this debt to my credit report, and no one will give me a loan. It is pure interest only. Although they still call it child support. It is collected by the DA for the mother.

We made a written agreement which is signed, and she accepted and deposited money from me per our new agreement, I have copies of checks. she notified the DA to close the case. They did, then she asked them two months later, to reopen the case that she did not agree to any separate contract and did not sign the contract.

The DA never stopped garnishing my pay check between this period, so she got twice the amount of money from me. She basically pulled a fraud on me. I have tried contacted her and she refuses to communicate with me.

Can I sue her is civil court for the breach and fraud, and basic remedies? Or will the civil courts kick me back to the DA to resolve because the monies is still, "child support".

The DA told me that there is a way to close and have the court validate this separate agreement. Then they said this was wrong that they are not actually attorneys representing my ex, and cannot be legally involved as a third party to a separate agreement. They said the mother has the "FINAL and Absolute" power to open or close the case.

See what the deal is, a giant loop-hole for the mothers?
This case is in California. It honors separate agreements. I have another child a couple of yrs. older. I worked out a separate agreement with the DA in a separate county and they honored it and closed the case.

If it is not a civil case then, lack of due process is prohibited. Which means, there is no means for me to seek justice, like everyone else in the country. which is discrimination. So, I know that is not the case.
I am sorry people, I know this is a complex question. I was hoping to find someone who actually experienced such a matter.
Near death is not the same as being dead. In a court of law there is a definite separation. As a matter of child support law in california, you either are decapitated, in which the court will need a motion and a doctors report. And they will only lower the order temporary, and it will still collect interest. And if you are dead, then they sue your estate, ( insurance company). They have thought of all avenues.

I payed all my child support owed to my ex. My child is emancipated and 19 years old and working. I owe arrears because of the interest that accumulated, when I was sick and in the hospital for awhile and she went on welfare. So they billed my K for this about a year ago. And no, they don’t care if I was in the hospital almost dying. And no, I could not get a loan to pay it off in a lump sum, because they added this debt to my credit report, and no one will give me a loan. It is pure interest only. Although they still call it child support. It is collected by the DA for the mother.

We made a written agreement which is signed, and she accepted and deposited money from me per our new agreement, I have copies of checks. she notified the DA to close the case. They did, then she asked them two months later, to reopen the case that she did not agree to any separate contract and did not sign the contract.

The DA never stopped garnishing my pay check between this period, so she got twice the amount of money from me. She basically pulled a fraud on me. I have tried contacted her and she refuses to communicate with me.

Can I sue her is civil court for the breach and fraud, and basic remedies? Or will the civil courts kick me back to the DA to resolve because the monies is still, "child support".

The DA told me that there is a way to close and have the court validate this separate agreement. Then they said this was wrong that they are not actually attorneys representing my ex, and cannot be legally involved as a third party to a separate agreement. They said the mother has the "FINAL and Absolute" power to open or close the case.

Please no answer from bitter single moms, or father who got divorced before 1983, or single guys who do not have a clue about the system.

Over the years I’ve been paying child support arrears. I’ve provided proof that I made payments directly to mother as we agreed. Mother filed for welfare and received while also getting direct child support from me. The courts received on numerous occassions proof of monies paid to mother. However, they said that I’m still responsible for all monies she received from the state. I’ve even filed a fraud case with welfare and given a case number as well as name of investigator. Miraculously, both the welfare and d.a. lost all proof and no case file had ever been filed under my name. Needless to say, I’m frustrated and don’t understand why a father who is/and has always been there for his son is being ripped by the system and dead-beat dads are home free. And worst yet, how some mothers are able to manipulate the system and nothing happens to them. To be able to receive welfare in two different counties at the same time is mind boggling. Any ideals or opinions?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, he was very selective of the investors who wanted to give him money, rejecting certain ones, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Or is this really welfare fraud? You decide:

A man has 5 wives, 10 kids and earns .00/hour. Obviously, that wouldn’t even pay the monthly electricity bill. So four of the "wives" receive welfare monies because they are single mothers with dependent children.

– with only 7th grade education they can’t even find a job
– no child support money

My point is that legally speaking, they are single women because polygamy is illegal. The so called ‘husband’ committed the crime of bigamy after he married his ‘extra’ wives. These marriages aren’t recognized in law so the women remain single mothers entitled to support from the State.

Or do they?

*Please note I’m not making this scenario up. It has happened, and for certain still happens because its impossible for one man to provide for all these people all on his own.
K douchebag, your’re blocked again. See ya.
K douchebag, your’re blocked again. See ya.
Err, Julie "FLDS group"? Watdat?
Ro, that makes all the sense in the world. Thanks for your post.

Someone I know may be commiting fraud and not reporting all her income to the agencies. This woman "Joan" was a partner in a small business, but nothing was in her name so she received cash under the table. The business fell through within months. Then she got another job on payroll until she had surgery and now claims she can no longer work. So currently while she’s waiting on her disability claim she gets different government assistance such as food stamps,etc. This woman claims to not have money and is unemployed, but yet just spent over 00 cash on christmas presents for her kids, has bank cd’s, her parents give her money, gets child support, her lover gives her money every month and on and on. Most unemployed people can’t spend 00’s on frivilious things. This woman applies for benefits even though she doesn’t need it and is not reporting all her monies.If you have 00 for shopping sprees, then why the hell is she on foodstamps. It is unfair and takes way from others who truly need it. This person brags and brags about what she gets to me, this is how I found out. I have no proof of any of this and only know what she tells me. She may also be stretching the truth, too. I don’t know. All I know is if you have monies coming from everywhere and still get assistance, then I know she isn’t reporting everything she should. Especially her small business that wasn’t in her name this year. In order to get assistance you must have limited money and her money ain’t limited.

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, he was very selective of the investors who wanted to give him money, rejecting certain ones, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors) to see if his financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors) to see if his financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, he was very selective of the investors who wanted to give him money, rejecting certain ones, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, he was very selective of the investors who wanted to give him money, rejecting certain ones, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, he was very selective of the investors who wanted to give him money, rejecting certain ones, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

I work for a small rural Town in Virginia. Recently a council member threaten the other members at a council meeting to purchase an item for her department by using the proceeds from a recent profitable event. The other members didn’t have a clue what she was talking about since it was not on the agenda. This person failed protocol and did not get her purchase. The same council person stated that she would create a controversy in return. She went on facebook and told all 1500 friends of hers that I took the monies from the event and used it for pest control. Then stated that I refused to reimburse her for expenditures used for the Town. She lied about everything. Nothing she posted on facebook was true and worded her post to make it sound as if I committed a fraud. She has now went to other members of council in private and stated that she is sick of doing my job and I had her kick off a committee that she chaired. Again, none of this is even remotely true. I’m finding out she is trying to get me fired. Why? I have no idea.
I’m a very capable employee who feels that I have been slandered. I don’t feel that my boss has the right to slander me on a social networking site. I saw the post. I think she forgot I was one of her friends. I was able to save a screenshot of the her post and dozens of other who responded prior to being de-friended. The Vice Mayor is in charge of personnel and will not allow me to file an official complaint in accordance to our personnel manual. The Mayor is hoping this will just blow over. Im not too worried about my job because everyone knows this person is a basket case. But, I have a position of trust and I need my reputation in tact.
Can I sue her?…what are my chances in Virginia? Virginia is an employer friendly state.

my employer is currently deducting insurance monies out of the employees check bi weekly and the premiums are only paid up until october 1, 2005. If you file a charge with the district attorney do they have the right to terminate you for that. It is called theft

It is stupid for the goverment to collect any monies from them as they did not uphold the laws to begin with. The victims of identity theft are paying for a problem they not cause!

The guy has been divorced for 3 years and keeping his ex-wife on his plan stating that they are married and she is his wife to get all of her medical expenses covered and they have amounted to a huge amount. Where would a person report this fraud and what would happen to the ex-husband and the ex-wife? Who would have to pay back the insurance company the monies paid out to the cover her bills?

A member of your family is commiting check fraud. They are signing checks made out to them from another family members checking acct. You find out, what do you do?
Checking acct. belongs to an elderly family member who suffered a stroke. Another family member knows of the monies in the victims acct. and begins to forge the elderly persons signiture to write checks to themselves for the $$$$. Hope that clarifies it for some.
This is a HYPOTHETICAL question.