Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors) to see if his financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

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Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

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Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors) to see if his financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

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a.a preliminary hearing in a murder trial
b.a misdemeanor traffic violation
c.a request for an equitable lien on property
d.a real estate fraud prosecution

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Here is his strategy:
a. He enticed charities, which are organizations, who would be less hostile if he were exposed, unlike individual investors who lost their all in all, who would be outraged to violence. To fortify his concealed fraud and theft, he got into the directorate of the particular charity, or one of his family did, so that if anything was brought up, he’d get ear of it and either silence it or cover it up specially.
b. To create the appearance of exclusivity and class, so that whatever invester was accepted, would be grateful and less likely to look deep down.

c. He’d screen carefully every person who wanted to place funds with him – To investigate the specific investor – He’d hire investigators to go into every detail of the potential investor’s business activity, credit background, marital involvements etc and if there were indications of tax fraud or divorce fraud, he’d take them in as investors. He wanted to see if the applicant’s financial activities were such that the money he was giving to Madoff was concealed tax fraud, that plenty of monied people have, and they seek places where the monies can remain concealed in a larger fund composed of many investors. Madoff knew that if the fraud ever was found out, these investors with shady assets that the IRS would immediately check into if these persons names surfaced as persons with claims against Madoff, then these people would just go away and take their loss rather than face criminal or civil charges by the IRS. so Madoff had a ready made gag over the mouths of many, many individual investors who he ripped off, knowing they would never open their mouths to regulators to protect themselves.
And as for the alleged “innocence” of his two sons. They knew plenty about it. Madoff didn’t want their lives destroyed by his evil, so it was agreed that when the matter was about to bust out, the sons would play the role of heroes unveiling Madoff so they would avoid prosecution.
Real nice family, isn’t it?

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for example if you committed the fraud 15 years ago would you be immune to prosecution today?

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individual "lazy employees" at ACORN, (which generated so many famous or phone book names in multiple states) have been convicted after being "turn[ed] … over to law enforcement for prosecution?"

"The problem for these lazy employees is that ACORN isn’t stupid and would flag the registration cards as suspect before turning them over to election officials. If they suspected fraud, they’d also turn those employees over to law enforcement for prosecution."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Akd_umkKFhTjbd.kBEpmbmPsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20081017164126AAtpVP6

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A) preliminary hearing in a murder trial
B) misdemeanor traffic violation
C) request for an equitable lien on property
D) a real estate fraud prosecution

i think its A but im really not sure. i just need a little help. thanks….

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I just handled a phishing e-mail that indicated my PayPal password had been changed. It was almost identical to a real password change notification except it told you to go to a website and login with your old password. The e-mail came from service784@security-paypal.com. I checked and a real notification came from service@paypal.com.

The link in the letter looked like a paypal.com url, but, instead took you to http://www.paylowpal.com/ . I spoofed an e-mail and password and was taken to http://www.paylowpal.com/wbsc.php where I was asked to provide all of the info from my credit card to verify who I was.

I WHOIS’d security-paypal.com and it was registered to:
Organisation Name…. Howard Sams
Organisation Address. 310 pine valley bridgeville,pa.15017
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. bridgeville
Organisation Address. 15017
Organisation Address. PA

I WHOIS’d paylowpal.com and it is registered to:
Organisation Name…. Qiang Chiung
Organisation Address. P O Box 99800
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. EmeryVille
Organisation Address. 94662
Organisation Address. CA

I reported it as a phishing site to Microsoft (tools – Phishing Filter – Report This Website).

I forwarded the entire e-mail to PayPal at spoof@paypal.com.

I then forwarded the e-mail and other information to US-CERT (US Computer Emergency Readiness Team) at http://www.us-cert.gov/nav/report_phishi… .

It is easy to see that both paylowpal.com sites were phishing sites. First the domain name sounds wrong. Then, neither site was a secured site (they would have started with https:… .

I hope others take the time to report phishing. It may prevent others from being victimized and, hopefully, your actions might help to lead to the prosecution and conviction of the person(s) committing the fraud.
Edit: Thanks James. I actually posted this as a warning and to show people what you can do to protect yourself. This may be a new one because it passed Microsoft’s phishing filter.

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The Castorena Leija-Sanchez crime organization is the major supplier of counterfeit documents/paper weapons in the United States. They are based in Mexico and have been operating in the United States for 17 years. They are in every major US city and earn approx.300 million dollars per year. They also deal in drugs and human smuggling. They are the new silent terrorists.

The following information on the site deals with the history of this terrorist group who they are, how they operate, and what is being done to expose them and bring them to justice.

Last but most important is the story of Suad Leija, the step daughter of the founder of this terrorist group. She has been assisting the government in their prosecution, identifying the key family members and giving the complete history from the beginning of this organization. You will see her early life as the organization grew. you will see her life as a young woman, you will see her life as she became the target of an effort to infiltrate her family to use their vast American computer database to track terrorists that have used the organization for counterfeit documents/paper weapons in the United States.

Until last year, the alleged connection between the Castorena and Leija-Sanchez families was relatively unknown. The link became clear in November, when ICE agents arrested Manuel Leija-Sanchez. It solidified when Suad arrived in the U.S. from Mexico earlier this year to assist U.S. agents in identifying family members.

STATISTICS

"The Castorena organization is suspected of making hundreds of millions of dollars a year in sales of fraudulent documents, ‘’said Dean Boyd, spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Washington, D.C. "They typically charge between and 0 per document, depending on the quality.”

ICE agents have connected fraudulent documents made by the Castorenas’ to the Leija-Sanchez family. The two families have worked together since their organization got its start in Los Angeles in the mid-1980s.

"Back then, they were one of the few organizations to have industrialized printing presses,” Boyd said. "They had the card stock and the technology that allowed for mass production. Other organizations depended on them for the industrialized printing press, and that’s when their business started booming.”

• Based in Mexico

• 100 key members oversee cells of 10 to 20 individuals in cities across the United States

• Cells deal in document fraud, human smuggling and narcotics trafficking

• Documents were linked to more than 400 investigations and seizures in more than 50 cities in 33 states.

• American Express attributed million in losses to the family fraud business.

• In Denver, ICE investigations have led to the criminal prosecution of more than 50

For ICE Director of Investigations Marcy Forman, the Castorena-Leija organization, which can provide forged documents to terrorists intent on violating national security, is one of the largest and most sophisticated counterfeiter networks.http://www.paperweapons.net/paperintro.html

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The fbi sent me a email today is it real or fake?

i have more than one account to conduct business or to just create accounts on websites is the email to be taken serious or should i just delte the extra accounts i have

This email serves to notify that your ip address has been linked to serveral email accounts including this one. Your search patterns and history are currently being reviewed and your email address(es) are being monitored. All activity from your ip address will be logged and can and may be used if prosecution is neccessary. We have noticed several fraud transactions originating from this ip address,this serves to notify you to cease and desist all illegal activities else your local fraud agency will be notified. We will continue to monitor and investigate your activity. I am etc;MR Thomas,Daniel

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Why doesn’t the Senate Judiciary Committee subpoena John Ashcroft & Pete Domenci to put an end to the whole "Gonzalez-lied" myth. Quite simply these two men are the most key witnesses to this whole sham—Pete Domenici had a genuine belief that Cases of Voter Fraud were going unprsoecuted in a timely manner, like the recent prosecution of Acorn associates in Seattle (home of anothe fired Prosecutor) and Missouri (also home to a fired prosecutor).

In the forementioned Seattle case—the worst case of voter fraud in the state history—the fraud likely gave the Democrats the governorship (won last election by 133 votes after 3 recounts).

Its no wonder Pete Domenici throught something should be done fast—voter fraud should be acted on fast!!!! Plain and simple—no apologies!!!

As for John Ashcroft—were he to testify it would be come clear that Democrats are constructing myths in regard to the "hospital visit".
MUST READ:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110010400

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In 1983, financier Rich was indicted for evading more than million in taxes, and charged with 51 counts of tax fraud, as well as running illegal oil deals with Iran during the 1979-1980 hostage crisis. During his last week in office, President Bill Clinton pardoned Rich, who had fled the U.S. during his prosecution and was residing in Switzerland. Clinton’s eleventh-hour move, along with pardons of his half-brother, Roger, and former business partner Susan McDougal, outraged Republicans and Democrats alike. The Rich pardon sparked an investigation into whether it was bought by the hefty donations Rich’s ex-wife, Denise, had given to the Clintons and the Democrats. In the end, investigators did not find enough evidence to indict Clinton.

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In todays Guardian, Polly Toynbee states that:
"Nigel Farage admits legally drawin £2m in EU expenses and employing his wife, while one of his MEPs was jailed for benefit fraud and another faces prosecution for laundering money and false accounting on his EU expenses"
EDIT: Just found out that the two disgraced UKIP MEPs are getting large 6 figure pensions too. Just like all the other MEPs. Still not seeing any difference….
EDIT: Just found out that the two disgraced UKIP MEPs are getting large 6 figure pensions too. Just like all the other MEPs. Still not seeing any difference….

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Workers at Oregon’s Driver and Motor Vehicle Services have turned in nearly 200 people to police for suspicious documentation, an effort that overwhelmingly singled out Latinos.

This summer, the DMV changed a long-standing policy: Rather than simply refuse service to customers suspected of presenting phony or altered documents to obtain licenses or identification, employees began to alert police.

From June through August, 140 people were turned in to police — roughly 94 percent of them with Latino names, according to DMV records obtained by The Oregonian. Oregon State Police and police agencies in Portland, Beaverton and Albany recieved the most referrals. Of those 61 cases, 13 people have been convicted of crimes, and a dozen others are pending prosecution, according to police agencies surveyed by the newspaper. Three others were cited but not charged with a crime.

For the remaining 33 cases, some were arrested but no charges were filed or their charges were later dismissed; some were never arrested or charged; or authorities could not find a case file for the person.

In one case, an Oregon City woman was arrested and charged with a felony only to find later that her identification was legitimate.

State officials say the new approach is a work in progress.

"We, too, are in the process of analyzing this to see what have been the results," said Lorna Youngs, administrator of Oregon Driver and Motor Vehicle Services.

She said the agency will evaluate the new procedure after it has been in effect for at least six months. The review will include how DMV employees followed protocol and what police agencies did with referrals. If Latinos make up the bulk of suspects, state officials will investigate further, Youngs said.

"We want to know, is this ultimately going to be a deterrent of fraud?"

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1191808511157130.xml&coll=7

So God has no problems with illegals who use document fraud to obtain a better life ? Can Americans have laws that offer the same special treatment. Do Churches condone document fraud knowing illegal aliens use fake documents to have this better life. What is the Churches stand on illegals they know who lie,cheat use fruad to have a better life? Are the illegals serving God or the Devil ?

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Most of it, of course, will not even take effect for several years — until after the next presidential election.

Who really believes that a radical restructuring of one-sixth of the nation’s economy — by adding requirements, demands, mandates, and other costs — is going to pull us out of a recession? Or that adding a trillion dollars to the national debt will make us solvent?

Isn’t part of this urgency because the public is awakening to what the radical change will mean to them, in terms of cost, quality, and access to care?

Excerpts:

None of the proposed legislation contains the words "death panels." But it does have "require" and its derivatives 427 times, "limit" 167 times, and "penalty" 156 times, as John Goodman has pointed out. It sets up the infrastructure for tracking every encounter, and the incentives and disincentives (punishments) for adherence to or "deviations" from "guidelines" or "best practices." It establishes the principle that some lives are more worthy of public funding than others. It constantly harps on "prevention" and "wellness" — to be funded at the expense of the sick, the injured, the old, and the disabled. It criticizes doctors for providing billions of dollars of "unnecessary" care or "futile" care, especially in what turns out to be the last 6 months of life. It advocates "end-of-life care," which is too easily translated into "ending life" or "non-care."

The plan is structured so that a liability for the government also becomes a liability for the doctor. Provide unapproved, costly care and see your paycheck slashed. Or worse, face draconian civil monetary penalties (,000 per item) or even prosecution for "waste, fraud, and abuse."

The doctor is working for the payer anyway, not the patient: The payer is the one who writes the check. Reform will cement the fundamental change in the patient-physician relationship that is already occurring. Physicians will no longer be healers, who serve their patients, but technicians, who help the state achieve its objectives. And they serve the state in another way too: since they are the ones who actually write the orders, they are the scapegoats for the system’s failure.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php

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Fraud and Unemployment?

I received a fraud determination for unemployment telling me I was overpaid a little over 950 when I was working. I’m worried about prosecution. What is the likelyhood that I will be prosecuted for this once the determination is final? Would contact them to make payment arrangements right away avoid this? On there website they say some cases are prosecuted. All cases are penalized a heavy fee.

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Healthcare question ……….?

What if family with out a job or insurance had to spend ten hours a week picking up trash on the highway or helping teachers in school or whatever the community needed in order for govt health care?. That would be 80 hours a month per family ( 10 each parent). for single parent families, the parent would definitely render the name of the other parent so they didn’t have to do their hours, helping find dead beat parents for welfare prosecution or fraud. .. Thus stopping more "un-fathered children" and saving welfare $$$. Would that be acceptable? After all they would have to earn it…
I am against govt health care, but if it is going to pass shouldn’t the voters get something out of it? Welfare would be cut because the Mom’s would "remember who the father was to avoid working their hours"..
Making somebody get out of bed at 5 am on a saturday to keep their insurance sounds good to me.
We already have the fiscal waste in the welfare – medi-caid- and other agency’ s now, this would help one of them. Having to earn something for their family is a great thing.
Yes , there is always the "i was raped Thing" but you still have to do the time. To the people who say who’s going to babysit, we the voters-taxpayers don’t care , that is their responsibility not ours, the hard truth…Who watches your kids while you work?
How about some of them work at a day care ? That would help.
I’m just trying to find middle ground here . There is no way Obama’s plan doesn’t cost the taxpayers no matter what he says.
Privacy”’ maybe they shouldn’t have had kids, huh. Don’t they have family?

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OK, people get mad when we say that the bill being proposed grants amnesty to illegal aliens, but have you tried to read it? They are getting more benefits than US citizens get!! OK, they have to pay a k fine, but look what they get in return! I spent an hour or two combing over the bill yesterday, and these findings, taken from Wikipedia, are true!

Illegal aliens would be required to pay taxes for only three of the previous five years; U.S. citizens or permanent residents who tried to pay only three of the previous five years of taxes would be violating the law and subject to prosecution.

Under The Bill, illegal aliens would be forgiven their Social Security fraud, even though such fraud is normally punishable by fines of up to 0,000 and five years in prison.

It would allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past work, regardless of their ability to demonstrate what, if any, payments they had made into the system

If this isn’t amnesty, I don’t know what is. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we should send them back to their cardboard box in Mexico, but I don’t think they should get more benefits than US citizens do, either.

What can we do about this? Or Congress is selling our country, is there anything we can do?

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A year ago I tried to find any one else that had their Home owners policy Recinded or Canceled after they put in a claim for Loss with Foremost Insurance Co.??? Without any luck, so am trying again…. I had a burgulary and when I sought to recover and put in a claim for the loss of my tools and other items, my policy was recinded…. after their investigator failed to intimidate me to drop the claim, with threats of prosecution for fraud…..(legitimate claim) I am in Arizona and have been told this is becoming quite common here…. The AZ Insurance Commission ‘buys’ anything the Insurance Companies tell them …. does not back up victims of such fraud by these companies? Make victims jump through hoops and go to much trouble and expense to make any recovery…. If you know of any such similar cirumstance happening to you or others please let me know….
Since I am disabled the Farmers agent filled out the form and read it to me. I answered the questions honestly as asked… he asked if I had placed any claims in the previous 5 years…I said no… when they forced me to go to a deposition 55 miles away from my home (2 weeks after i had a stroke) they asked different questions….. asked if I had any losses, which I answered truthfully… I had a worker that stole a couple of items from me when he was doing work for me, a woman that took money out of my bank account while i was in the hospital, and had a couple of axles & wheels taken from my property… none of which were related to questions originally asked me…. then used these to deny my claim…. my tools were related to maintance of my home, cars, vehicles and property as were the other items (,000 worth) out of my garage after they ripped off a walk door and frame to gain access… . Not pro…
Since I am disabled the Farmers agent filled out the form and read it to me. I answered the questions honestly as asked… he asked if I had placed any claims in the previous 5 years…I said no… when they forced me to go to a deposition 55 miles away from my home (2 weeks after i had a stroke) they asked different questions….. asked if I had any losses, which I answered truthfully… I had a worker that stole a couple of items from me when he was doing work for me, a woman that took money out of my bank account while i was in the hospital, and had a couple of axles & wheels taken from my property… none of which were related to questions originally asked me…. then used these to deny my claim…. my tools were related to maintance of my home, cars, vehicles and property as were the other items (,000 worth) out of my garage, shop… after they ripped off a metal walk door and frame to gain access… . Not pro items…
Since I am disabled the Farmers agent filled out the form and read it to me. I answered the questions honestly as asked… he asked if I had placed any claims in the previous 5 years…I said no… when they forced me to go to a deposition 55 miles away from my home (2 weeks after i had a stroke) they asked different questions….. asked if I had any losses, which I answered truthfully… I had a worker that stole a couple of items from me when he was doing work for me, a woman that took money out of my bank account while i was in the hospital, and had a couple of axles & wheels taken from my property… none of which were related to questions originally asked me…. then used these to deny my claim…. my tools were related to maintance of my home, cars, vehicles and property as were the other items (,000 worth) out of my garage, shop… after they ripped off a metal walk door and frame to gain access… . Not pro items…

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The government has continually harrassed me through invasion of privacy and interfered in my employment, healthcare, education, insurance, etc. for a couple of decades. I turned the government in for mismanagment, fraud and abuse ( stealing million and systematically murdering anyone who got in their way) during the Reagan administration while working for the Department of Defense. In 2003, I found myself in the middle of a criminal toxic tort (illegal factory human toxic experiment) and again turned those involved in for first degree murder of one coworker and several counts of serious assault. The owner running the tort (CIA/OSI industrialist) admitted it and even inferred one intent of the tort was to chronically poison me to death. He showed no remorse or fear of prosecution. The Police, FBI and DOJ don’t deny it, just refuse to investigate or take a report – all claiming they have no jurisdiction. I am the "skeliton in the closet" of some seriously powerful people. What do I do?

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I recently bought a SmarTrip card on craigslist – the seller showed me the value of the card (0) and I used it for a few weeks and then it deactivated with 0 left on it.

I’m afraid to phone in the problem because I think I just purchased someone’s smartbenefits. Which, according to the back of the card, "is subject to arrest/prosecution." But I don’t want them to get away with this so they’ll do it to someone else – how do I report them to the proper authorities anonymously?

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Good afternoon

I appreciate your help ..

My wife wrote over 70 bad checks in two counties (40 in one county, which the case is set to go to grand jury june 12th) .

The police raided the house with a search warrant, obtaining over 54 items. all of which are evidence . there is no question that this is real

does anybody know what the minimum time will be to serve in regard to prosecution .. ?

she is a first time offender .. over 40 checks .. totalling 00 — account was closed the whole time .. the forgery part was that she used my account from 2 years ago …. and signed my name on at least 10 checks.

please advise

Thank you

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Insurance fraud question?

Hope u guys can settle an argument. My mate has accidental damage insurance via his home insurance. His stereo is pretty old and he told me he could buy a really good, but damaged one dead cheap, say he owned and damaged it, and claim for a new one on the insurance.

Ignore the fact that this is highly immoral and will end up increasing MY premiums, I thought that one danger was that if the system he picked up had already been through an insurance claim then some sort of serial number would have been logged. He’d then have to explain himself and risk, at best, his policy being cancelled, and at worst prosecution.

He says they don’t log serial numbers of items so it is possible. Luckily for all he got a new one for his birthday but we still argue about it to this day!

If anyone in the know could shed any light on this at all i’d be really grateful. Thanks!!

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As near as I can tell he didn’t like the way a bunch of prosecutors were carrying out the duty—namely poor prosecution of voter fraud cases in places where that voter fraud seemed to be making a difference due to closer and closer elections.

Is this all about congressional incumbents holding on to "their" voter fraud that they seem to like!!!

It seems they do’th protest too much.

After that, whats the worst Gonzalez did? I don’t see any beef!
Is there any evidence that AG GOnzalez only fired these guys to STOP an investigation.

I believe Clinton fired the prosecutor investing Whitewater and the prosecutor investigating Rostenkowski, but I have no evidence. How is your frivolous allegations any different than mine….

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